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"a touch of Saturn"

Happy birthday to jalara! May you have a most fantastic day and many, many more. :)


In my last random post of fandom musings I forgot to mention a recent conversation I'd had about my surprise that the original film Lion in Winter has not inspired more "movieverse" fan fiction. To date, I have found (with the kind help of agentxpndble) only two fan fiction works:

"The Games We Play" by Redclia (Richard/Philip slash)

"Lonely" by Sweet775 (Eleanor gen)

If you know of other works, please pass them along! Curious minds want to know. :) Many thanks.


As quote for the day, another striking passage from James Goldman (from the imagined perspective of the 12th-century cleric Giraldus Cambrensis):

We seem to have some need to idolize our conquerors. Our Alexanders, Hannibals and Caesars are much loved. If we had seen their slaughters, had we heard the whimpering and smelled the blood, would they seem less heroic? I would like to think so, but I wonder. We find pleasure in destruction, do we not? There is a touch of Saturn in us all: we eat our children.

from Myself as Witness, James Goldman

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estellye
May. 22nd, 2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
Ooh, disturbingly true, the quote for today. *shivers*
eldritchhobbit
May. 22nd, 2005 08:31 pm (UTC)
Sobering, isn't it?
theladyrose
May. 22nd, 2005 09:13 pm (UTC)
I had once contemplated writing a piece with Eleanor and Alais in modern times to see how different they might be, but it ended up bearing an eerie resemblance to the Manchurian Candidate.

Thanks for the links; they look quite interesting!
eldritchhobbit
May. 23rd, 2005 02:40 am (UTC)
I had once contemplated writing a piece with Eleanor and Alais

Oh wow! Now this sounds great! I'd buy it and read it. :)
galadhir
May. 23rd, 2005 08:47 am (UTC)
We idolize our conquerors because otherwise they would kill us. Also it's a way of retaining self respect - if they're awesome, then there's less shame in having fallen to them.
eldritchhobbit
May. 23rd, 2005 12:51 pm (UTC)
Good point! It's interesting how, across time, at points this has bled over into our histories.
jalara
May. 24th, 2005 03:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks! It was a wonderful day!
eldritchhobbit
May. 24th, 2005 03:54 pm (UTC)
Wonderful! I'm so glad to hear it. :)
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